Here's a house rule from Mr. Gygax that I hadn't heard before.
* 1d6 for surprise. 1=1 round. 2=2 rounds. 3 or more=no surprise.I would extend this rule for rangers:
* 1d6 for surprise. 1=1 round. 2=2 rounds. 3=3 rounds. 4 or more=no surprise.This looks like it would fit nicely into our houseruled initiative system. The only hitch I can see is that I like to sometimes give automatic surprise to the player who jumps the gun. In that case I would roll it like so:
* Non-Rangers: 1d2 for surprise. 1=1 round. 2=2 rounds.
* Rangers: 1d3 for surprise. 1=1 round. 2=2 rounds. 3=3 rounds.And that should do it.
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